Re: [Harp-L] Minor II V I
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- From: Winslow Yerxa <winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:39:23 -0800 (PST)
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Some of what you're experiencing could be due to the way the chords are being voiced by the backup - for instance C# sounding bad on the G alt chord.
Some of the others are a bit of a stumper. However, I should mention one thing that may help with some of this stuff.
If you just take the actual notes of the chord, and leave aside the scale that is "supposed" top go with it, you're left with non-chord tones and the effects they have. Three effects that you can try out are:
1. Play a note an octave *plus one semitone above any of the chord tones.
2. Play a note an octave *less one semitone above any of the chord tones.
3. Play a note an octave *less *two semitone above any of the chord tones.
Speaking very generally, the note a semitone *below the octave will sound smoother than the one *above. The one two semitones below may sound smooth if it isn't also a semitone above another chord note.
Winslow
Winslow Yerxa
Author, Harmonica For Dummies ISBN 978-0-470-33729-5
--- On Fri, 1/8/10, michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Minor II V I
To: "Ronald Burton" <aussierwb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Harp-L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 3:49 PM
After an afternoon of exploring, I have come up with these sounds that
do not make sense with my understanding of the theory:
During the Dm7b5, Eb, F#, A and B sound good to me.
During the G7Alt D and F# sound good, as well as the C already
discussed. C# Sounds bad.
During the CmMaj7 Ab, F# and Bb sound good.
Any clues as to why? Thanks for all of your help so far.
Thanks,
Michael Rubin
Michaelrubinharmonica.com
On 1/8/10, Ronald Burton <aussierwb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Winslow...couldn'thave said it better if I was an MIT Engineering grad. I've got a harp tuned something like this....never use it
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> Ron B
>
> > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 13:22:03 -0800
> > From: winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Minor II V I
> > To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Here are the spellings of the chords:
> >
> > D minor 7 flat 5: D F Ab C
> > (this type of chord is also called half-diminished 7ths)
> >
> > G alt: G Cb F Bb Eb Ab Db
> > (Ab melodic minor scale voiced in 4ths)
> >
> > C minor major 7: C Eb G B
> >
> > You may be thinking of a G suspended (aka sus4) chord, which would contain a C.
> >
> > An alt chord does contain an augmented 5th, yet it is not the same as an augmented chord, as it's not based on a triad structure. Instead it states the scale in a stack of 4th intervals (which is why you see C-flat intead of B in the G alt chord).
> >
> > Winslow
> >
> > Winslow Yerxa
> >
> > Author, Harmonica For Dummies ISBN 978-0-470-33729-5
> >
> > --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Ronald Burton <aussierwb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Do you mean G-Augmented with the seventh of G with an augmented 7th
> >
> > The first chord would have a C instead of the B
> >
> > arp-l
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